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Tschabalala Self Abdu Ali
SEASON 2 | EPISODE #6 | JUNE 30, 2021
Visual Artist & Musician
Tschabalala Self & Abdu Ali

For this episode, we asked visual artist Tschabalala Self who she’d most like to speak with—she selected her friend Abdu Ali, the musician and multidisciplinary artist. The pair discuss the fantasy of permanent institutional spaces, unapologetic art, and the fraught desire for canonical recognition.

Tschabalala Self is a Harlem-born visual artist. Her work concerns the emotional, physical and psychological impact of the Black female body as icon. Her solo exhibitions include: By My Self, at Galerie Eva Presenhuber, and Cotton Mouth, on view at the Baltimore Museum of Art. Self’s work is included in the collections of The Art Institute of Chicago, The Hammer Museum, and The Studio Museum in Harlem, among others.

Abdu Ali is a musician, writer, cultural worker, and artist. Blending punk, jazz, Baltimore club music, and rap. Their works explore ideas of race, gender, sexuality, and liberation. They received a 2018 Ruby Artist Grant and a 2019 Best Artist Award by the LGBTQ Commission of Baltimore City.

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FUSE: A BOMB Podcast extends BOMB’s longstanding commitment to bringing together artists across disciplines to discuss their work and creative practice. Departing from the typical podcast format, there’s no host, no moderator, just two artists in dialogue, unfiltered. Listeners experience the conversation as if they were in the room with the artists.

Here’s how FUSE works:

In each episode, BOMB invites an artist to choose a guest from any creative discipline —

an art crush, a close collaborator, or even a stranger they’ve admired from afar

—and we bring them together.

The result? Candid, unfiltered conversations on art, what inspires it, how it’s made, and what we can learn from it.


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FUSE is overseen and produced by Libby Flores, Associate Publisher at BOMB. It is edited and engineered by Will Smith with production assistance by Josh Dassa. Narration provided by Chantal McStay, Associate Editor at BOMB magazine. Our theme music is “Black Origami” by Jlin.


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