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Miguel Gutierrez Gabrielle Civil
SEASON 2 | EPISODE #4 | JUNE 8, 2021
Choreographer & Performance Artist
Miguel Gutierrez & Gabrielle Civil

For this episode, we asked choreographer Miguel Gutierrez which artist he’d most like to speak with, and, without hesitation, he selected performance artist and writer Gabrielle Civil. Over the phone, Miguel and Gabrielle discuss their paths to artistic success, the pressures of first-generation exceptionalism, and the time Miguel memorized the choreography to The Nutcracker as a ten-year-old.

Gabrielle Civil is a Black feminist performance artist, poet, and writer, from Detroit. She has premiered fifty original performance artworks around the world and is the author of two books, Swallow the Fish and Experiments in Joy. Her recent performances include Jupiter and Wild Beauty.

Miguel Gutierrez is a choreographer, musician, singer, and writer. His recent projects include the performance This Bridge Called My Ass, his Madonna cover band SADONNA; and Are You For Sale?, a podcast about the ethical entanglements in dance-making and philanthropy.

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FUSE: A BOMB Podcast extends BOMB’s longstanding commitment to bringing together artists across disciplines to discuss their work and creative practice. Departing from the typical podcast format, there’s no host, no moderator, just two artists in dialogue, unfiltered. Listeners experience the conversation as if they were in the room with the artists.

Here’s how FUSE works:

In each episode, BOMB invites an artist to choose a guest from any creative discipline —

an art crush, a close collaborator, or even a stranger they’ve admired from afar

—and we bring them together.

The result? Candid, unfiltered conversations on art, what inspires it, how it’s made, and what we can learn from it.


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FUSE: A BOMB Podcast is supported in part by an award from the National Endowment for the Arts.


FUSE is overseen and produced by Libby Flores, Associate Publisher at BOMB. It is edited and engineered by Will Smith with production assistance by Josh Dassa. Narration provided by Chantal McStay, Associate Editor at BOMB magazine. Our theme music is “Black Origami” by Jlin.


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